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	<title>Comments on: Leading Children through Action</title>
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	<description>notes on a ministry and a changing world</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://thelogosministry.wordpress.com/2008/03/14/leading-children-through-action/#comment-6621</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You raise some great issues and questions Lynn.  I think a great deal of the issues is related to our consumer mentality at church.  Even beyond this however, is a lack of "benefit" that people see in investing in children.  It is a long term investment that benefits the larger Kingdom but maybe not our individual church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You raise some great issues and questions Lynn.  I think a great deal of the issues is related to our consumer mentality at church.  Even beyond this however, is a lack of &#8220;benefit&#8221; that people see in investing in children.  It is a long term investment that benefits the larger Kingdom but maybe not our individual church.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://thelogosministry.wordpress.com/2008/03/14/leading-children-through-action/#comment-6620</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen!  I see people in the church all the time shaking their heads about "these kids today" but then are upset when "these kids" aren't dressed well enough for worship or their choirs are "taking the place" of adult worship choirs.  It's not easy (and sometimes not even fun or fulfilling) to reach out and do what it takes to include young people in church.  It does take work and persistence.  And sometimes it even means being in conflict with others over it.  

I get SO angry (yep...angry) when older adults and long-time Christians bemoan the fact that there's nothing going on in the church for them. It's like they've been forgotten.  All of the focus is on the kids.  Well, YES!!!  It's because the older folks are the ones who HAVE the faith (or are supposed to) and now it's their responsibility to be GIVING and not even thinking about RECEIVING.  Why are there so many people in the church searching for what can be done to benefit them? Have they forgotten that they're not supposed to be acting this way?  Or did they never learn it in the first place?  

What's the answer?  Is it our fault?  Have we forgotten them? Do they need to be invited into ministry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen!  I see people in the church all the time shaking their heads about &#8220;these kids today&#8221; but then are upset when &#8220;these kids&#8221; aren&#8217;t dressed well enough for worship or their choirs are &#8220;taking the place&#8221; of adult worship choirs.  It&#8217;s not easy (and sometimes not even fun or fulfilling) to reach out and do what it takes to include young people in church.  It does take work and persistence.  And sometimes it even means being in conflict with others over it.  </p>
<p>I get SO angry (yep&#8230;angry) when older adults and long-time Christians bemoan the fact that there&#8217;s nothing going on in the church for them. It&#8217;s like they&#8217;ve been forgotten.  All of the focus is on the kids.  Well, YES!!!  It&#8217;s because the older folks are the ones who HAVE the faith (or are supposed to) and now it&#8217;s their responsibility to be GIVING and not even thinking about RECEIVING.  Why are there so many people in the church searching for what can be done to benefit them? Have they forgotten that they&#8217;re not supposed to be acting this way?  Or did they never learn it in the first place?  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s the answer?  Is it our fault?  Have we forgotten them? Do they need to be invited into ministry?</p>
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