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	<title>Comments on: To Spank or not to Spank</title>
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		<title>By: Alesa</title>
		<link>http://thelogosministry.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/to-spank-or-not-to-spank/#comment-2218</link>
		<dc:creator>Alesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 19:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Praises To GOD- Life is Too Short,Grudges are a waste of Perfect Happiness,Laugh when you can,Apolagize when you Should,And let go of what you Can't Change,Love Deeply and Forgive Quickly,take chances,Give Everything and have NO Regrets,Life is Too Short To Be Unhappy,you have to take the Good With The Bad,Smile When Your Sad,Love what you got and always Forgive but Never Forget,Learn from your mistakes but never regret people Change,and Things go Wrong,But always remember LIFE GOES ON.All Things Are Possible--Luke 18:27) Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Praises To GOD- Life is Too Short,Grudges are a waste of Perfect Happiness,Laugh when you can,Apolagize when you Should,And let go of what you Can&#8217;t Change,Love Deeply and Forgive Quickly,take chances,Give Everything and have NO Regrets,Life is Too Short To Be Unhappy,you have to take the Good With The Bad,Smile When Your Sad,Love what you got and always Forgive but Never Forget,Learn from your mistakes but never regret people Change,and Things go Wrong,But always remember LIFE GOES ON.All Things Are Possible&#8211;Luke 18:27) Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://thelogosministry.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/to-spank-or-not-to-spank/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 03:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was spanked as a child. I didn't suffer from it (at the momment maybe). Children don't always see the importance of listening to parents and spanking can create that importance. Example:You tell your child to not go on the street. If they do not listen, you spank them now they have some phycical discomfort from keeping them off the street. It is no longer do I listen to mom but  it has now become do I want the pain. That seems less harsh than having them hit by a car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was spanked as a child. I didn&#8217;t suffer from it (at the momment maybe). Children don&#8217;t always see the importance of listening to parents and spanking can create that importance. Example:You tell your child to not go on the street. If they do not listen, you spank them now they have some phycical discomfort from keeping them off the street. It is no longer do I listen to mom but  it has now become do I want the pain. That seems less harsh than having them hit by a car.</p>
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		<title>By: Evelyn</title>
		<link>http://thelogosministry.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/to-spank-or-not-to-spank/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>Evelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with John M., I think using the many alternatives to discipline is the best choice.  However, I believe there are times when a light smack on the bottom or hand is an acceptable form of discipline as well.  I say that carefully...a defenseless child NEVER deserves a severe spanking/beating at the hands of one that is much bigger than him.  That would do nothing other than produce fear and potential confusion, mistrust and anger toward the parent. Ephesians 6:4 says do not provoke your child to anger...I don't believe God ever intends for us to hurt them in any way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with John M., I think using the many alternatives to discipline is the best choice.  However, I believe there are times when a light smack on the bottom or hand is an acceptable form of discipline as well.  I say that carefully&#8230;a defenseless child NEVER deserves a severe spanking/beating at the hands of one that is much bigger than him.  That would do nothing other than produce fear and potential confusion, mistrust and anger toward the parent. Ephesians 6:4 says do not provoke your child to anger&#8230;I don&#8217;t believe God ever intends for us to hurt them in any way.</p>
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		<title>By: rebekah riley</title>
		<link>http://thelogosministry.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/to-spank-or-not-to-spank/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>rebekah riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would like to email a sda pastor.my email address is rileyrebekah @ bellsouth dot net  i would like to discuss the subject about child abuse.  i don't know how to contact an sda pastor in chattanooga collegedale, tn. but if you can help me.  i would sincerely appreciate you time and help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would like to email a sda pastor.my email address is rileyrebekah @ bellsouth dot net  i would like to discuss the subject about child abuse.  i don&#8217;t know how to contact an sda pastor in chattanooga collegedale, tn. but if you can help me.  i would sincerely appreciate you time and help.</p>
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		<title>By: Robb F.</title>
		<link>http://thelogosministry.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/to-spank-or-not-to-spank/#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>Robb F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 17:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm?  God's Word clearly permits it?  Not so sure on that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm?  God&#8217;s Word clearly permits it?  Not so sure on that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John M</title>
		<link>http://thelogosministry.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/to-spank-or-not-to-spank/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>John M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think anyone is saying that these studies take precedence over the Bible. 
Children don't like to be spanked and there are alternatives, that is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone is saying that these studies take precedence over the Bible.<br />
Children don&#8217;t like to be spanked and there are alternatives, that is all.</p>
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		<title>By: William B.</title>
		<link>http://thelogosministry.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/to-spank-or-not-to-spank/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>William B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God's Word clearly permits it.

I do not know why any Christian would accept the studies and opinions of the State University of New York (SUNY) at Buffalo or of the American Academy of Pediatrics as authorities higher than God's Word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God&#8217;s Word clearly permits it.</p>
<p>I do not know why any Christian would accept the studies and opinions of the State University of New York (SUNY) at Buffalo or of the American Academy of Pediatrics as authorities higher than God&#8217;s Word.</p>
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		<title>By: D.S. Lear</title>
		<link>http://thelogosministry.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/to-spank-or-not-to-spank/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>D.S. Lear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 00:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pro 22:15  Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him. 
Pro 23:12  Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge. 
Pro 23:13  Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. 
Pro 23:14  Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. 
And other verses are used by those who would advocate spanking as Godly...
The rod was a symbol of God's power and His power was in His Word.  That rod was placed in the Ark of the Covenant under the Mercy Seat...the rod is a word meaning a branch off of...all the punishment physical was placed on the back of Christ, and yet we are quick to pick up a stick and most reluctant to teach our children the Word.  I wonder how many "Christian" parents have the right "rod" and apply it correctly.  Every time a trespass is committed we as parents should discipline with the Word and Heal with the Word..this works for children of all ages, being a child is not measured in numbers but in maturity...we wouldn't be so quick to pick up a stick against one our own size or better....did we think we could beat our own image out of the child?  Or should we seek more often to show His image.
A long time ago we learned to respect those with authority...now the boundaries are not so clear as to whose in charge...Father forgive us...as Jeremiah said
Jer 10:24  O LORD, correct me, but with judgment; not in thine anger, lest thou bring me to nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pro 22:15  Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.<br />
Pro 23:12  Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge.<br />
Pro 23:13  Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.<br />
Pro 23:14  Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.<br />
And other verses are used by those who would advocate spanking as Godly&#8230;<br />
The rod was a symbol of God&#8217;s power and His power was in His Word.  That rod was placed in the Ark of the Covenant under the Mercy Seat&#8230;the rod is a word meaning a branch off of&#8230;all the punishment physical was placed on the back of Christ, and yet we are quick to pick up a stick and most reluctant to teach our children the Word.  I wonder how many &#8220;Christian&#8221; parents have the right &#8220;rod&#8221; and apply it correctly.  Every time a trespass is committed we as parents should discipline with the Word and Heal with the Word..this works for children of all ages, being a child is not measured in numbers but in maturity&#8230;we wouldn&#8217;t be so quick to pick up a stick against one our own size or better&#8230;.did we think we could beat our own image out of the child?  Or should we seek more often to show His image.<br />
A long time ago we learned to respect those with authority&#8230;now the boundaries are not so clear as to whose in charge&#8230;Father forgive us&#8230;as Jeremiah said<br />
Jer 10:24  O LORD, correct me, but with judgment; not in thine anger, lest thou bring me to nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: John M</title>
		<link>http://thelogosministry.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/to-spank-or-not-to-spank/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>John M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should we warrant spanking as a valid punishment anymore? Behavioral studies have uncovered  methods that can be just as effective that don't involve hitting. Finding another way to discipline a child would be good for the parent &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; the child.

I really like thinking of discipline as more than just punishment. There are many negative connections with the word discipline that have changed how we see discipline today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should we warrant spanking as a valid punishment anymore? Behavioral studies have uncovered  methods that can be just as effective that don&#8217;t involve hitting. Finding another way to discipline a child would be good for the parent <i>and</i> the child.</p>
<p>I really like thinking of discipline as more than just punishment. There are many negative connections with the word discipline that have changed how we see discipline today.</p>
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